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He's built a reputation, and it isn't for calmness and impartiality. He's not what he looks like. They call him "Hurricane Heck. Lately he's been attacking our Brahmin suppliers so he can take over their business. He's the sort to pound in a nail with a wrecking ball. If you gave him the whole story on this he'd be liable to raze the entire hotel.
And God knows what he'd do to the rest of the Strip. He's a slithering snake, what he is. At this point you can either return Ted to his father, or you can carry out the revenge path of Pheeble Will as detailed in the section above. To complete the quest peacefully, return with Ted to his father. If you didn't lie to Ted in the freezer, he will tell his father what happened and Heck will want to impose a blockade of food on the Strip. You have the option to not let this happen with a 35 Speech check, which will lead to Strip fame.
If you are unable to pass the check, you will gain infamy. If you lied to Ted in the freezer or said there wasn't time to explain , his father asks who was behind the kidnapping. If you tell the truth, you have to pass the same 35 Speech check, but this time you will only gain Strip fame. If you lie to him, you will gain both Strip fame and White Glove Society fame.
You also have the unmarked option to apply Wasteland manners in the pedant face of the White Glove Society, if you don't mind the possibility of being vilified by them. Follow the quest as detailed in the " Following the Investigator " section above, but after discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the courier has the unmarked option to tell Heck Gunderson what's happening. After you have given Heck the news, he offers a different solution: simply shoot everyone in your way and return Ted to him.
He provides you with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells. Note that if you do this, you can kill all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never have your weapons taken again. Then you will have all your weapons and can continue the quest uninterrupted, although you may want to disguise as a White Glove to prevent unwanted attacks.
Just be sure not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest will fail. Even after all the killing, once you complete the quest you may still go from hated to idolized by the White Gloves.
Once you return Ted to his father the quest is completed, and you gain XP and caps from Heck. Fallout Wiki Explore. Fallout games. Classic games Fallout Fallout 2 Fallout Tactics. Fallout Atomic Shop Apparel Bundles C. Emotes Icons Photomode S.
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View source. History Talk Cleanup Issue: perspective, synopsis section?!? To meet Nukapedia ' s quality standards, this article or section may require cleanup. Please help by improving the article. I'm so glad you weren't eaten! Clair at his residence north of the Strip.
PC Playstation 3 Xbox If you choose to cook the imitation meat pie and then take it, when you call the head waiter over he will stand in front of the oven and will not move. Make sure it is still around 7 PM when you leave the kitchen or you will encounter the bug mentioned below where Mortimer doesn't make his speech. PC Playstation 3 Xbox Ted Gunderson may become stuck in combat mode, and will not follow you through area transitions.
When re-entering the Strip, be cautious as Ted does not have a passport and will be shot by security if you do not make it to the gate fast enough. Taking the monorail from Camp McCarran will also work. Alternatively, if you do not want to risk Ted dying, you can slowly and carefully walk into him, pushing him towards Heck.
This is assuming you do not have to travel through any doors. You can also use the 'resurrect' command on him from the console if you're playing the PC version, and it will reset him. Waiting two to three hours on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox also works. Also, if you have a full party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to act normally Tested on PC.
If you try to return later with Ted, the room will become hostile toward you. If you do not kill Boone first, even if you hire another companion after he's been eaten, when you go to the Legion camp, you will be perceived as hostile and attacked on sight.
If you confront him before the speech ends, you will fail to expose him since he did not yet say anything about eating humans. However, once he leaves the room you may not expose him. When this happens the only solution is to walk back through and reunite Ted with his father, though the White Glove members will be hostile. If this bug occurs, you may reload from save and wait until it's 7 PM next day.
When you go out of the kitchen, Mortimer should no longer be walking away. Alternatively, you can leave the members only section while remaining undetected into the Ultra-Luxe kitchen , wait a whole day until pm the next day, and Mortimer will be standing behind the podium. He won't say anything, having already given his speech the day prior; however you can rush towards him and initiate the dialogue exposing his plans, thus completing that particular objective for Beyond the Beef.
Playstation 3 If you choose to leave Boone in the freezer, you will not receive his ending, making it as if you had never met him. This happens regardless of whether he is dead or alive when locked in. May be true for the other human companions as well; only tested with Boone. They will follow you around the suite with their guns drawn, but will not attack, and they will not retaliate even when attacked by the player. Killing them does not result in negative Karma.
There is no conversation option to leave the casino - the player must either surrender their weapons or attack the guard. If the player chooses to attack the guard, the casino section will become hostile and attack - but not the rest of the hotel.
All quest non-player characters will remain friendly. The player can proceed with the quest normally, although Marjorie may become hostile at random, causing some resolutions to be impossible. Additionally, Heck Gunderson will not have the conversation options necessary for him to give you the shotgun and proceed to kill the White Gloves. The player can bring Ted Gunderson back to resolve the quest, but cannot convince Heck to rampage through the casino.
Clair [Guns 45] can cause him to die and the quest to be marked as a failure. Use wait and quick save frequently to work around it. It's confirmed that with or without companions this is likely to happen for different reasons, so quick save often and try to stay as little as possible in the steam room enter the room only at 4PM or little after and go straight to him.
PC Completing the conversation with Chauncey and attempting to leave the Bathhouse through the north-eastern door to the Casino Floor locks the game en route. Loading an older save prior to entering the Ultra-Luxe and going through the quest again from the beginning did not resolve the issue. Somehow circumvented by either constantly quick-saving or not looting either Chauncey or the Assassin, or both. If you do this, and then start the quest, you will be unable to do a few of the optional objectives that involve drugging the wine and calling the head waiter down.
However, the quest can still be completed. The oven will not be accessible to make the fake strange meat pies and you will not be able to call down the Head Waiter to pick up the fake strange meat pies. The only options left will be to kill everyone on your way out or drug the wine to sneak past. Then stand still in an attack pose refusing to follow you. And if you bring your non-player character's up to the White Glove Society room without being a member after dealing with Mortimer they will be hostile to your non-player character's and begin attacking.
PC If Ted cannot follow you you enter a different room and he does not follow simply go to the room where his father is and type the following into the console: prid d4f0 and hit enter. Then type moveto player and Ted will appear. Or type the following into the console: set "d2c6". Xbox If you kill everyone and find Ted in the kitchen, when you bring him back to his father, you'll get the same dialogue as if you were starting the quest.
This may be due to the fact that Ted stays behind which calls for another initiation of conversation to have him follow you again. Additionally, you may be able to gain ammo from Heck if you haven't already mentioned that Ted is within the confines of Ultra-Luxe.
Therefore, you may talk to Heck, gain weapon s and ammo, then return to find Ted. Walter Phebus was not feeding the strip. So, yes. Saving Ted and keeping both Heck and Ted alive to keep the strip fed is the right thing. Allowing Ted to die and killing Heck for Walter's personal gain and his own satisfaction is wrong. Walter is just pissed because he didn't think of it first.
Plain and simple. What gave you the idea that Phoebus was hoarding his cattle? Cattle ranchers don't keep those things for pets, you know. You are supposed to not like the White Glove Society. Besides being pretentious prigs, they were cannibals fer gosh sakes! Who wouldn't hate them? I'm a tougher sheriff than Meyers any day. Ted sealed his own fate when he opened his mouth in the freezer.
I only dragged his ass back to the lobby so I could kill them together photo in the advlt section of my gallery. As for being the Chosen Child and walking into the Lucky 38; mayhaps we have a much higher opinion of ourselves than the hoi polloi.
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