Valorum Valorum k gold badges silver badges bronze badges. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Memory-Alpha : In Books One and Two of the duology Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - Avatar, the first books in a series set after "What You Leave Behind", the Defiant was described as having been fitted with a new Romulan cloaking device, the Romulan Senate having recognized the strategic importance of the Defiant as the first line of defense against any future Dominion attack through the wormhole.
Memory-Beta : Following the war, the Romulan Senate moved to allow the Defiant to keep the borrowed Romulan cloaking device it utilized. Improve this answer. Raidri Raidri 2, 1 1 gold badge 16 16 silver badges 30 30 bronze badges. Is there any evidence that's from the actual shows?
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Email Required, but never shown. Featured on Meta. As late as , Starfleet wasn't informed that the Defiant was equipped in that way. After the Dominion threat emerged in late , a special amendment made to the Treaty of Algeron allowed the Defiant to be equipped with a Romulan cloaking device.
In exchange for providing the cloaking device, the Federation agreed to share all of its Dominion intelligence with the Romulan government. Additionally, the cloak was only authorized for use in the Gamma Quadrant, although Captain Sisko violated this provision on numerous occasions. Use of the cloaking device was initially supervised by Sub-Commander T'Rul , although the Romulans later discontinued supervision. Because of the amount of power the Defiant used, the cloak did not completely hide the ship from Jem'Hadar sensors during normal operation.
The Defiant 's permanent assignment at Deep Space 9 as a support vessel meant that it had no specific or dedicated crew complement of its own. Since the vessel was manned by station personnel, their assignments often fluctuated based on the needs of each individual mission, much like a shuttlecraft on a starship. The following listing should be considered a generalization. The main reason for the creation of the Defiant was that Ira Steven Behr and the other writers felt the Danube -class runabouts would not be able to protect the space station from the Dominion , and that something with more muscle was necessary.
In the second season finale " The Jem'Hadar ", the Dominion had shown themselves capable of destroying a Galaxy -class starship the USS Odyssey and it was felt that viewers would not accept the idea that the Federation 's first line of defense against such a powerful enemy was three runabouts.
Behr remembered, " At one point, Robert Wolfe and I were sitting around after the 'Jem'Hadar' episode had been filmed. We were looking at dailies and said, 'Jesus, we're blowing up Galaxy Class starships; these guys are tough, and all we have are these freaking runabouts' [ You know, I mean, with the Galileo or whatever the hell those names were? You know, it just seemed ridiculous. So we needed a ship.
They wanted a fighting ship. It was not based on ratings. The Defiant was originally envisioned, by the DS9 producers, as "a beefy runabout. Related Behr, " We [ Doesn't have to be a ship that's as good as Voyager. Doesn't have to be a starship — we need a kick-ass ship. However, he was ultimately willing to concede to the request of the former, motivated by a criticism of the series — due to its station-bound setting — that the producers often heard. They want a ship, we'll give them a ship.
As it turned out, Michael Piller himself brought the idea to Rick Berman's attention. At this point, the general idea was still for the craft to be a kind of runabout, larger than the others. Cinefantastique , Vol. And I didn't know what Voyager was going to be at the time. I said, 'Fine, let's give it something only Deep Space Nine has. The design direction of creating the Defiant as a larger form of runabout was soon revised. The craft was — from that point on — redesigned as a starship rather than a runabout.
When Ronald D. Recalled Moore, " They told me, 'We've got this ship! But this show's about a station. I just left a ship! Observed Behr, " [He] got all excited at the thought of this [ Naming the newly conceived vessel was one of the first tasks Ron Moore had to do, as he began work on the script for "The Search, Part I".
The producers didn't allow him to use that name for the new ship, as the USS Voyager 's name also begins with a "V". As well as liking the name Defiant , Ron Moore believed it required some backstory, wondering, " Why would you name a ship the Defiant? This was 'Uh oh, they're bigger than we are and they're coming to get us. Let's ram it down their throats. It's still considered a fighting ship.
You don't know exactly how it will react in a given situation. Various rumors circulated about the origins of the Defiant. Noted Ira Behr, " I've heard all types of rumors about the Defiant. Responding to such opinions, Robert Wolfe said, " The truth of the matter is the Defiant was an attempt to correct a deficiency in the runabouts [ We were doing those kinds of stories on DS9 anyway. We just wanted to do what we do better and a ship will help us do that.
Star Trek: Communicator issue , p. The DS9 writing staff swiftly realized that imagining the Defiant as "a unique little warship that was overpowered and overgunned" could generate dynamic stories in future installments. It also made it easier to shoot scenes with more people inside a bigger vessel, rather than in the cramped quarters of those little runabouts, " stated Terry Farrell , with a laugh.
Although the producers chose to include no spotlights on the outer hull of the Defiant -class, the Defiant was lit with spotlights for the ship's debut, in " The Search, Part I ". Describing how this was done, Gary Hutzel said, " We hooked a mag light on a C-stand arm that was connected directly to the camera head, so that it rocked and rolled with the model.
Then we designed the shot to display some of the ship's better angles as it backed away and turned around. By the end of " The Search, Part II ", the writers had given up on the idea of the Defiant using its cloaking device and didn't expect to use it ever again. Director of Photography Jonathan West was even told, " We'll never be cloaked again; this is just for the first show.
Upon starting to write the story for the episode " Defiant ", one of the first ideas Ron Moore had was the starship Defiant being stolen by Thomas Riker. When the writing staff was trying to select a "contained" setting for third season finale " The Adversary ", the Defiant provided a useful environment.
Robert Wolfe remembered that the idea of the ship " heading inexplicably toward destruction, like the death machine that she really is, being all locked down and going like a runaway train, became the basic hook that everyone really liked. The DS9 staff writers were pleased with how the Defiant was established during its first season and how it opened up narrative possibilities for later stories.
We really feel we have the best of all possible worlds with the Defiant. We're freed up. Ira Behr commented: " The fans are already asking for Defiant play sets ".
Cinefantastique , Volume 27, Issues Ordover , an unusual way of using the Defiant , inspired by the German submarine drama Das Boot. Mack subsequently recalled, " I [ The writers imagined the craft sinking to a depth hundreds of kilometers underwater. They intended to set up the risk that "the ship runs out of power and the structural integrity field collapses, and the ship is crushed like an egg. They also wanted to deliver on what they had planned for the starship, portraying it as having some weaknesses.
Having the ship encounter "a difficult atmospheric situation" served this intent well, as Voyager or the Enterprise would have had no problem in similar circumstances, whereas the relatively under-equipped warship Defiant was shown to struggle. A three-second shot of the Defiant in battle, from "The Way of the Warrior", was reused and re-composited by Glenn Neufeld for part of a combat sequence in " Paradise Lost ". Kira Nerys actress Nana Visitor once commented that "going out on the Defiant " was one of two main components that Star Trek: Deep Space Nine became "about," "doing battle" being the other.
AOL chat , Also, the inclusion of the ship allowed the film to address the fact that Worf was now assigned to the vessel. The annihilation of the vessel would prove needless in a story that didn't even involve the Deep Space Nine characters apart from Worf and inconvenient for the television show. So we went back [to the script]. We were very careful that the Defiant actually did [survive]. No reference to the damage the Defiant received during the Battle of Sector was ever made on Deep Space Nine although a brief reference was made to the battle itself in " In Purgatory's Shadow ", when Sisko mentions "the recent Borg attack".
Though the viewers of DS9 would likely have preferred something as simple as a mention of recent repairs to the craft, Ira Behr wanted to forget about the ship's involvement in the film. In the final shot of DS9 fifth season installment " The Darkness and the Light ", the Defiant slowly flies over and past the camera.
Maneuvers performed by the Defiant while damaged in " For the Uniform " were also done by Gary Hutzel, using motion control photography. When Gary Holland originally devised a story that eventually served as the basis for " Children of Time ", he imagined the Defiant crash landing on a planet where the ship's crew met their ancestors.
The story was rewritten, with the vessel referred to as having instead crash landed in the past, on a planet named Gaia. In the interim between the fifth and sixth seasons , Ira Behr planned using the Defiant in more episodes. AOL chat , To prepare for the filming of "One Little Ship" scenes in which the runabout Rubicon was miniaturized inside the Defiant and shrunken officers from the Rubicon walked around the starship's innards, John Eaves produced at least three concept sketches of various parts of the Defiant.
Also, David Weddle and Bradley Thompson — who were credited with writing "One Little Ship", although the story idea didn't originate with them — spent many hours touring the Defiant sets, choreographing shots of the tiny runabout. The Defiant eventually turned out to be the primary setting of " The Sound of Her Voice " too, that episode having originally been set at least mainly aboard Deep Space 9.
It had to be on another ship. In " Penumbra ", the DS9 writing staff made the Defiant , even under Captain Sisko's command, unable to effect a rescue that a runabout, piloted by Ezri Dax, managed, carried by the Badlands' currents. When the writers chose to destroy the Defiant in " The Changing Face of Evil ", they decided it was important to make the craft's annihilation emotionally effective.
Ron Moore added that the writers also " wanted to kill Defiant as a statement on how tough the Breen were. I bet the USS Valiant could 've cloaked. Rahul Rao.
Your claim is just idle speculation. There was no indication or evidence of the Valiant's capability to cloak. It has been established by the Treaty of Algeron that no Federation vessel have a cloaking device, with the exception of the Defiant - which as you remember used to have a Romulan officer on board to moniter the use of the cloak.
Defiant was equiped with a cloak in return for intelligence on Dominion activity in the Gamma Quadrant - technically IIRC the Defiant is not allowed to cloak in the Alpha Quadrant, but that could have changed. Sue Slechta. Jim Jackson. Ummm woah, hang on a sec. There is a strong implication E-E can cloak..
Yeah I know a toy is the NOT the best scientific evidence to go on but.. Now of all the ones I own the different Trek ships I have yet to see ANY of the toys not be darn close to what it is supposed to represent.
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